Blackjack Side Bet Lucky Lucky

Blackjack Side Bet Lucky Lucky

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The Lucky Lucky side bet is based on the player's first two cards and the dealer's up card. Payouts range from 2-to-1 for any three cards of 19 or 20 and up to 200-to-1 for a three card suited 777 (see payout list below).Lakeside is the only place in South Lake Tahoe to offer this fun twist on blackjack.

AB21
A couple of years ago I decided to take on a new AP strategy by counting the lucky lucky side bet in blackjack. It didn't take long to figure out most of what I needed to know after searching Eliot's website.
At first I was hoping to figure out a way to beat the side bet as well as the main game (I use hi lo) simultaneously. Keeping a side count of 6,7,8,A was ideal but too difficult so I concentrated on the 2 most valuable cards - 7 & 8. I found tracking these with the clock/chip method to be quite doable. I would then make the lucky lucky bet when the shoe was rich in 7's and/or 8's. The problem was I wasn't smart enough to figure out at what richness level to start making the bet. Obviously I should have the advantage when the shoe was very rich, but what about when the 8's were rich and 7's neutral or various other combinations? What about the 6's and A's I wasn't tracking? I may have bet at times without an advantage but most likely I was probably missing 80% of the opportunities. So after about 20 hours fooling around with these side counts I decided to learn a new count.
Interestingly, this would be the first time I tried a new count (and a level 2 count at that) in my 30 year love affair with the game.
Count is as follow:
2,3,10 - plus 1,
6,A - minus 1
7,8 - minus 2
4,5,9 - zero
I was quite surprised how quickly I picked it up. I stood behind a table and practiced for an hour before jumping in. The first few hours were mentally taxing, but after a while you begin to memorize the groupings and off setting pairs/groups that makes counting so much easier than non counters think it is.
The game is decent - 6 decks, blackjack pays 3 to 2 (isn't it a sad state of affairs that I even have to mention that?) H17, DAS, ES10, re split aces, and good pen. Unfortunately most of the games in my area have a $25 max on the lucky lucky ($5 min on the regular game) that will limit my EV to about $20 /hr (at 100 hands/hr). Certainly not going to get rich on this, but for the last decade or so I have been playing mainly for fun at relatively low stakes - something to do while my wife is out of town on business.
My betting strategy is to bet 5 or 10 bucks at a true count of plus 2 and bet the max on higher counts. At plus 5 or higher I will try to get more money on the table by betting multiple spots or by betting on other player's squares. Betting on other player's squares certainly has its pitfalls which I won't get into here. I also employ shuffle tracking techniques to increase betting frequency - again, I'm not smart enough to figure out how much extra EV this provides.
If I feel up to it, for the first few rounds after a shuffle I will keep both the hi lo count and the lucky lucky count (this is kind of similar to back counting 2 tables at once) if one of the counts quickly goes negative or positive I will abandon one for the other. If nothing extreme happens after a few rounds I drop the hi lo, as keeping 2 counts for an extended period is too hard on the head.
I quickly discovered that this game has huge variance, but after 32 years of playing blackjack, variance is no stranger to me. After the first 10 hours I am down almost a thousand bucks. But the positive variance in this game is absolutely thrilling as I discovered after hitting a suited 678 on a $25 bet for a $2500 payout.
So how am I doing?
After 162 hours of play I am up $4535 which should be close to my expected win (not sure of my actual EV due to the shuffle tracking effect and not tracking the extra money I try to put in play at higher counts)
Big hits:
1) I have hit the suited 678 that pays 100 to 1 five times - 3 times with a max bet, 1 time with 5 bucks, and thankfully only once without a bet. At 100 hands/hr you should make this hit every 58 hours or so, so I guess you could say I have been lucky lucky :).
2) I hit three unsuited 7's (pays 50 to 1) twice, once with 5 bucks bet and once with $0. Still waiting for the elusive suited sevens that pays 200 to 1, but have seen it hit at my table twice. Once was a sweet elderly lady who had a whopping $1 on the bet. I went on to befriend her and now bet on her square when the opportunity presents itself
3) unsuited 678 (pays 30 to 1) - I didn't keep track, but I hit it many times with and without money on it. In the long run this should come up every 4 hours or so.
What I love about this game:
1) the huge variance on the positive side!
What I hate about this game - several things:
1) the high negative variance.
2) the low maximum
3) a big hit with no money on it
4) ploppies and dealers constantly chastising you for not consistently playing the lucky lucky (it is very popular and most people play it).
5) #4 above after getting a big hit with no money on the lucky lucky. (This is one of the very few times I may get snarky with other players or the dealer)
6) the count skyrockets, the table is painted with 6's, 7's, and 8's, but the cards just don't line up for you, or the guy beside you has a huge hit
So am I going to return to the regular game or continue counting the lucky lucky?
It depends which side of the variance curve I'm on when you ask me.
teliot
Nice account, thanks for sharing.
odiousgambit
I will have a chance to play the Lucky Lucky this month, but the casino alters the paytable. Copying and pasting from what I posted before,
RG altered the paytable for the 'suited 21' to 10 to 1. I did the math, hopefully correctly, for the alteration [see the link below].
for that one line:Side
wizard cited: probability=0.005299, pays 15 to one, = +0.079492
RG variation: probability=0.005299, pays 10 to one, = +0.05299
difference =0.026502

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Wizard cited return = -0.026556
So the RG HE = -0.053058 (by my calc.)
If Eliot is still reading, sir, you might confirm this kills the idea of counting it.
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teliot

I will have a chance to play the Lucky Lucky this month, but the casino alters the paytable. Copying and pasting from what I posted before,
RG altered the paytable for the 'suited 21' to 10 to 1. I did the math, hopefully correctly, for the alteration [see the link below].
for that one line:
wizard cited: probability=0.005299, pays 15 to one, = +0.079492
RG variation: probability=0.005299, pays 10 to one, = +0.05299
difference =0.026502
Wizard cited return = -0.026556
So the RG HE = -0.053058 (by my calc.)
If Eliot is still reading, sir, you might confirm this kills the idea of counting it.

I've known about the 5.3% game for a long time, but not analyzed it on my site (at least, not that I recall.) No, it does not kill counting. The big 'kill' is the $25 max bet.
Wino
Hi AB21. I loved your report. Do you get any heat playing this way? Do other players or Casino staff ever notice that you get pretty 'lucky' fairly often either on Blackjack the main game, LL, or both? How many different Casinos you do this at? I'm asking because I've been playing another side bet and getting some heat and wanted to change the approach.
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AB21
Hey Wino,
I haven't received any heat yet although penetration has gotten worse at my favourite casino. I am pretty sure the pit knows what I am up to but they tolerate me due to the relatively low stakes I play at. You would think other players would catch on, but they either don't, or don't want to ask me about it. I spread my play around to 3 different casinos. Only playing a few hours/week could be another reason for an absence of heat.
umbrellaman
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Introduction

Lucky Lucky is a side bet based on the player's first two cards and the dealer's up card. As far as I know, it is the first side bet to be based on the player's first two cards and the dealer's up card. Since it came out, there have been many imitators.

Through the years I have seen four pay tables, which I refer to on this page as numbers 1 to 4. Pay table 1 was the original one and seen at casinos all over the United States and Canada. Pay table 2 was a double-deck version, omitting the pay for a suited 7-7-7, which is impossible in a double-deck game. Pay table 3 came along around 2014 as an apparent effort to increase what was a low house advantage for a side bet. Pay table 4 can be found at Internet casinos using Felt Gaming software.

The following table shows the various pay tables.

Lucky Lucky Pay Tables

EventPT 1PT 2PT 3PT 4PT 5PT 6PT 8PT 8
Suited 7-7-72000200200200200100500
Suited 6-7-810010010010010010050200
Unsuited 7-7-750505050505030100
Unsuited 6-7-83030302530301025
Suited total of 21151010151510315
Unsuited total of 2133333323
Total of 2022222222
Total of 1922221111

Analysis — Pay Table 1 — Six Decks

Following is my analysis of pay table 1 using six decks. The lower right cell shows a house edge of 2.66%, which is quite low for a side bet.

Lucky Lucky — Pay Table 1 — Six Decks

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EventPaysCombinationsProbabilityReturn
Suited 7-7-7200800.0000160.003191
Suited 6-7-81008640.0001720.017234
Unsuited 7-7-7501,9440.0003880.019388
Unsuited 6-7-83012,9600.0025850.077553
Suited total of 211526,5680.0052990.079492
Unsuited total of 213406,2960.0810430.243130
Total of 202377,5680.0753130.150626
Total of 192364,3200.0726700.145341
All other-13,822,7200.762513-0.762513
Total5,013,3201.000000-0.026556

Analysis — Pay Table 2 — Two Decks

Following is my analysis of pay table 2 using two decks. The lower right cell shows a house edge of 5.39%.

Lucky Lucky — Pay Table 2 — Two Decks

EventCombinationsProbabilityPaysReturn
Suited 6-7-8100320.0001760.017572
Any 7-7-750560.0003080.015376
Unsuited 6-7-8304800.0026360.079076
Suited total of 21109360.0051400.051399
Unsuited total of 21314,9040.0818430.245530
Total of 20213,7920.0757370.151474
Total of 19213,3440.0732770.146554
All other-1138,5600.760884-0.760884
Total182,1041.000000-0.053903

Analysis — Pay Table 2 — One Deck

Following is my analysis of pay table 2 using one deck. The lower right cell shows a house edge of 5.05%.

Lucky Lucky — Pay Table 2 — One Deck

EventPaysCombinationsProbabilityReturn
Suited 6-7-810040.0001810.018100
Any 7-7-75040.0001810.009050
Unsuited 6-7-830600.0027150.081448
Suited total of 21101080.0048870.048869
Unsuited total of 2131,8360.0830770.249231
Total of 2021,6880.0763800.152760
Total of 1921,6400.0742080.148416
All other-116,7600.758371-0.758371
Total22,1001.000000-0.050498

Analysis — Pay Table 3 — Six Decks

Following is my analysis of pay table 3 using six decks. The lower right cell shows a house edge of 5.31%.

Lucky Lucky — Pay Table 3 — Six Decks

EventPaysCombinationsProbabilityReturn
Suited 7-7-7200800.0000160.003191
Suited 6-7-81008640.0001720.017234
Unsuited 7-7-7501,9440.0003880.019388
Unsuited 6-7-83012,9600.0025850.077553
Suited total of 211026,5680.0052990.052995
Unsuited total of 213406,2960.0810430.243130
Total of 202377,5680.0753130.150626
Total of 192364,3200.0726700.145341
All other-13,822,7200.762513-0.762513
Total5,013,3201.000000-0.053054

Analysis — Pay Table 4 — Six Decks

Following is my analysis of pay table 4 using six decks. The lower right cell shows a house edge of 3.95%.

Lucky Lucky — Pay Table 4 — Six Decks

EventPaysCombinationsProbabilityReturn
Suited 7-7-7200800.0000160.003191
Suited 6-7-81008640.0001720.017234
Unsuited 7-7-7501,9440.0003880.019388
Unsuited 6-7-82512,9600.0025850.064628
Suited total of 211526,5680.0052990.079492
Unsuited total of 213406,2960.0810430.243130
Total of 202377,5680.0753130.150626
Total of 192364,3200.0726700.145341
All other-13,822,7200.762513-0.762513
Total5,013,3201.000000-0.039482

Analysis — Pay Table 5 — Six Decks

Following is my analysis of pay table 5 using six decks. The lower right cell shows a house edge of 9.96%.

Lucky Lucky — Pay Table 5 — Six Decks

EventPaysCombinationsProbabilityReturn
Suited 7-7-7200400.0000140.002763
Suited 6-7-81005000.0001730.017267
Unsuited 7-7-7501,1000.0003800.018994
Unsuited 6-7-8307,5000.0025900.077704
Suited total of 211515,3000.0052840.079258
Unsuited total of 213234,9000.0811230.243368
Total of 202218,2000.0753550.150710
Total of 191210,6000.0727310.072731
All other-12,207,4800.762351-0.762351
Total2,895,6201.000000-0.099557

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Analysis — Pay Table 6 — Six Decks

Following is my analysis of pay table 6 using six decks. The lower right cell shows a house edge of 12.60%.

Lucky Lucky — Pay Table 6 — Six Decks

EventPaysCombinationsProbabilityReturn
Suited 7-7-7200400.0000140.002763
Suited 6-7-81005000.0001730.017267
Unsuited 7-7-7501,1000.0003800.018994
Unsuited 6-7-8307,5000.0025900.077704
Suited total of 211015,3000.0052840.052838
Unsuited total of 213234,9000.0811230.243368
Total of 202218,2000.0753550.150710
Total of 191210,6000.0727310.072731
All other-12,207,4800.762351-0.762351
Total2,895,6201.000000-0.125976

Analysis — Pay Table 7 — One Deck

Following is my analysis of pay table 7 using one deck. The lower right cell shows a house edge of 5.05%.

Lucky Lucky — Pay Table 7 — One Deck

EventPaysCombinationsProbabilityReturn
Suited 6-7-810040.0001810.018100
Any 7-7-75040.0001810.009050
Unsuited 6-7-830600.0027150.081448
Suited total of 21101080.0048870.048869
Unsuited total of 2131,8360.0830770.249231
Total of 2021,6880.0763800.152760
Total of 1921,6400.0742080.148416
All other-116,7600.758371-0.758371
Total22,1001.000000-0.050498

The following table is an analysis of pay table 8 with six decks.

Lucky Lucky — Pay Table 8 — Six Decks

Blackjack Side Bet Lucky Lucky Man

Blackjack Side Bet Lucky Lucky
EventPaysCombinationsProbabilityReturn
Suited 777500800.0000160.007979
Suited 6782008640.0001720.034468
Unsuited 7771001,9440.0003880.038777
Unsuited 6782512,9600.0025850.064628
Suited 211526,5680.0052990.079492
Unsuited 213406,2960.0810430.243130
Any 202377,5680.0753130.150626
Any 191364,3200.0726700.072670
All other-13,822,7200.762513-0.762513
Total5,013,3201.000000-0.070743

House Edge Summary

Following is a summary of the house edge by pay table and number of decks.

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House Edge Summary

DecksPay Table 1Pay Table 2Pay Table 3Pay Table 4Pay Table 5Pay Table 6Pay Table 7Pay Table 8
12.61%5.95%6.66%6.41%7.31%8.67%9.56%8.67%
22.82%5.21%6.02%5.97%6.85%8.17%9.03%8.17%
32.77%4.65%5.5%5.52%6.39%7.7%8.54%7.7%
42.72%4.32%5.18%5.24%6.1%7.4%8.25%7.4%
52.68%4.1%4.98%5.05%5.92%7.21%8.05%7.21%
62.66%3.95%4.83%4.92%5.78%7.07%7.91%7.07%
72.63%3.84%4.72%4.82%5.68%6.97%7.81%6.97%
82.63%3.84%4.72%4.82%5.68%6.97%7.81%6.97%

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